So if you don't fucking love, or at least strongly enjoy DR, you are not going to like IR since the thinking, way we do things to DR is very similar. one friend of mine narrowed his choices down to ophtho and ortho. You are a radiologist in the end and 100% IR jobs are not always available. but it seems like a good number of folks do debate between ortho and ophtho. First line is 100% true. Not really true anymore for ENT, recently it's become a requirement that ENT interns spent at least 6 months on ENT. shorter surgeries (1-4 hrs). There is always this DO versus MD “competitiveness” going on … My elecetive was in that, and I loved it. Previous examples of troll posts involved users seeking "help" on mundane or sensitive personal issues. I had a good buddy in school whose first job was IR--he really liked it, although in his situation he did a lot of call and that meant a lot of travelling to all the facilities his practice covered. This sub is open to PAs, MD/DOs, NPs, Nurses, any other medical professional, or even the general public. [–]ktehcMD-PGY3 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children), fair enough, i get what you mean... there are patients you'd like to see again and ones you definitely dont. Should you wish to submit your own content, please consider buying a sponsored link from reddit. IR Thermometers are extremely useful when measuring temperatures in domestic, industrial and commercial locations. All submissions are required to include a tag so that they can be flaired and sorted. use the following search parameters to narrow your results: Please keep all topics germane to current medical students. Not to be a downer, but tis the reality-check season. Nationally there are only 30 direct to IR positions and 305 ENT spots. Filesharing is prohibited in this subreddit. The terms ortho, meta, and para are prefixes used in organic chemistry to indicate the position of non-hydrogen substituents on a hydrocarbon ring (benzene derivative). So how can they "require" a certain intern year? This subreddit is not a place to spam your blog or solicit business. Struggling with the thought of doing 3 years DR just to get to IR (which could not happen), and then expecting 40% DR work no matter what. On the other hand orthopedics is the study of the human musculoskeletal system. The moderators of /r/medicalschool do not endorse/sanction said channel or bear any responsibility for any happenings within said channel. As far as clinical experience you will probably learn more in an ortho rotation. The good thing about orthodontic dental treatments that use braces or Invisalign is that they do more than just straighten the teeth. Please limit posts concerning USMLE Step 1 or 2 to their respective stickied threads. Renowned Orthopaedic Surgeons & Sports Medicine Specialists. Struggling with the thought of doing 3 years DR just to get to IR (which could not happen), and then expecting 40% DR work no matter what. However, if interventional radiology is a large interest of yours, having that rotation could really help you in the job search. The Broward program, which is a dually accredited AOA/ACGME orthopedic surgery residency, recently received 450 applications for 3 training slots. It sounds like you are averse to diagnostic radiology. Have a back-up in mind. Thanks. [–]helpwithspecialty[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (1 child). It was intense but also very fun. I loved my ortho elective. The idea here is to remove any form of shock absorption at all and let feet do their job as nature intended, “paleo” running shoes, really just an extra layer of synthetic skin. Keen vs Merrell: Which is a better choice? I can share specifics but I don't need to brag. I now do neurosurgery so I'm not sure if I would have been more useful? In ortho you do clinic and or time. [–]SailorMewMD-PGY3 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child). I interviewed at one program whose intern year consisted of 6 months ENT/6 months gen surg but at most places, intern year was 6 months ENT + month-long rotations on trauma, gen surg, plastics, peds surg, neurosurg etc. Having a procedural mindset is important, but in my opinion that core problem solving/diagnostic mindset is more important. Toward the end of my rotation, they let me close (supervised) which was awesome, really helped my suturing skills. I am submitting my preferences for clinical rotation sites and am torn between IR and orthopedics for my elective. I sutured all day in ortho (while I was on gen surg). I want to read, I just don't want to be in the dark room 5 days a week. Transjugular liver biopsies. The match stats sent out to those of us in the NRMP says only 30 positions available in IR this year. IR programs could just say that beginning the advanced position requires the completion of a surgical prelim year. This IRC channel is an entity that is independent of this subreddit listed here for the convenience of the community. For moderation issues that arise there contact the moderators of the channel and not the moderators of /r/MedicalSchool. At least where I was, IR PAs mostly did their own cases (but there was a complexity ceiling for PAs), whereas surgical PAs did next to nothing solo in the OR. On your DR rotations you will be in the dark room 5/6 days a week. ALL QUESTIONS GERMANE TO PREMEDICAL STUDENTS Feb 21, 2009. Please include one of the following in your submission title, as appropriate for your submission (and include the brackets!) Moderation issues related to the IRC channel should be directed at the mods of the respective channel. I'm fortunate to have good stats and some good research. Moderator discretion is used to determine and remove posts of this nature. multiple fellowship options. I think you will be happy either way you go. I've spent limited time in the IR suite and scrubbed in on a few ortho cases, but still really dont understand the specialties. khirbz. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I'd go ortho. © 2020 reddit inc. All rights reserved. Pros - procedures throughout the body, cerebral, possibility of a non-surgical intern (i.e. Specializes in Medical-Surgical, Orthopedics. These are also valuable in correcting bite issues that often require special diagnosis and treatment. While WaterPik uses a focused stream of water to loosen plaque and food particles; Sonicare AirFloss utilizes a stream of air, interspersed with microdroplets of water. Help a MS3 out. Also from the PDs/fellows i've talked to, a surgical intern year is becoming a pseudo-requirement. Well put, [–]helpwithspecialty[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children). By … I imagine this would also hold true if you are interested in FM/Urgent Care. Day 1 I was smacking a tibial nail with a slide hammer to drive it down the length of a fractured tibia. If you can see yourself dedicating 90hrs/wk in the OR during residency and be busy afterwards go for it. It would sure be harsh to require a surgical prelim year without warning while you're in the middle of intern year. I like IR more than ortho, but i like ortho more than DR. I did my elective in ortho trauma and had a job offer from them before I ended the rotation, which I accepted and worked for 2 years. You probably wanna know if you're a surgery person or not. Sounds convincing. There's more like 120 IR spots but I see what you mean. Typically, when a person is prescribed this immediate release version, they would take it two or three times a day. While IR does do a lot of procedures...remember that ENT is surgery. I know I will probably end up doing DR at least a portion of my attending time. Most doctors I've worked for preferred LASIK to ortho-k, but they were also terrible at fitting RGPs, much less the more difficult to fit ortho-k RGPs. [–]bronzefullhelmMD-PGY2 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children), This is exactly what they presented at SIR this year. I know multiple programs that "strongly suggest" a surgery prelim year and a couple faculty told me they are transitioning to making it a requirement. But IR is at it's core applied DR. Most don't have this as a hard requirement just yet, but it certainly sounds like it's moving towards that. Review 4: Mark, 31, user from Reddit.com. If the J value is 8 to 9 hz the the substituent will be at ortho position . If you don't want to do DR, don't do IR. Like I said i never did ortho, but my gen surgery rotation was mainly learning about pre/post-op management with a tiny bit of OR time. I loved that rotation too, but I def prefer doing more procedures. I have seen ultrasound guided procedures like central lines before and kinda assisted in them. For the intern year, I've wondered about this. Tons of procedures (I got to first assist in a few knee & hip replacements... although when it came to actually reducing the hip, I was too weak and they laughed at me). So it is a good thing and a bad thing. While both are designed to enhance plaque removal, there are some key differences between each product. Ortho does not have any programs that match into PGY-2 positions. While we welcome prospective PAs, this sub is aimed primarily at working PAs. Those guys are insane and can get biopsies from anywhere, probably perform all the G.I/Cards procedures with ease. Troll posts will not be tolerated. You will be doing some reading. Rendered by PID 12475 on r2-app-0e428bc0dddc109f3 at 2020-12-09 16:10:01.568942+00:00 running 59d663e country code: HK. Of my friends that matched into ENT or applied to IR (don't know if they got DR or IR yet) -- were all AOA/humanism, strong USMLE, plus research in related field. AMA-style threads are not allowed without prior moderator approval. 328 votes, 167 comments. I would say that orthopedics makes more sense from a practical perspective. Your two options are some of the most competitive. Outpatient ortho I was in peds ortho, I did a lot of casting, pin removals post-op, and suture removal. This includes discussion of filesharing or sources of pirated materials (e.g. It is why SIR continue to have a huge imaging focus rather than technical skill focus. I must be missing something then? Could happen and probably will in the future. I loved every minute of it. Ludger Ernst. It definitely depends on your interest and patient demographics, but doing hip replacements on old ladies for hours on end does not sound very interesting to me personally, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, More posts from the physicianassistant community, Continue browsing in r/physicianassistant, This is a subreddit to share information about Physician Assistants (PAs). I did both as electives and worked in ortho and now in IR. submitted 3 years ago by helpwithspecialty. To help make your choice easier, we have equally provided a detailed guide that will provide more vital information on IR Thermometers. I did a 4-week IR elective, and I did ortho for a part of my general surgery rotation. Length of training, attending lifestyle, call, salary are all similar enough to not really make a difference in my decision. The technical skills are not that hard to learn, tips and tricks here and there, it is the imaging that is the hard part. IR is ALL procedures and it would probably take lots of practice before you’re any good at it. - [Step 1], [Step 2], [Well-being], [Preclinical], [Clinical], [Research], [News], [Residency], [Serious], [Vent], [Shitpost], [High Yield Shitpost], or [Meme], IRC Channel: irc.snoonet.org port 6667 #medicalschool, or click HERE. I enjoy working with kids but not mandatory. If you wish to contribute to the wiki please refer to this post and PM /u/FactorGroup, /r/medicalschoolEU /r/residency /r/osteopathic /r/premed /r/premeduk /r/medicine /r/FOAMEd /r/askmedical /r/MedSpouse /r/Pathognomonic /r/Scholar /r/MDPhD, /r/Healthcare /r/HealthIT /r/Cancer /r/Diabetes /r/Fibromyalgia /r/Optometry /r/GlobalHealth /r/EmergencyMedicine /r/Pharmacy /r/Nursing /r/UKHealthcare /r/dentistry /r/Podiatry /r/epileptology. I just want to do more than dark room for the rest of my career. Traditional orthodontics focuses primarily on straightening misaligned teeth. And quickly adapting to new technologies. My ortho unit gets every surgery except CTS and Neuro. I don't mind the reading room. Day 2 I was closing under supervision. I talked to faculty at some programs who said that they just look for research in anything, not necessarily ENT, but I do feel like it's a huge boost for your research to be ENT related. The first and only male review on our list comes from Mark, a Reddit user who wanted to share his experience with the community. Vail-Summit Orthopaedics & Neurosurgery. anki decks). Although most of our patients are ortho patients we still get medical and surgical patients as well. Im sure everyone is well aware of the numerous benefits of Benfotiamine and its superiority over Thiamine. I chose Ortho for an elective because I'm most interested in EM, and my impression is that expanding my Ortho knowledge base will be more useful than IR for the emergency setting. Orthophthalic(ortho) resins are the basic chemistry of polyester resins. It is thinking in complex planes, about disease pathophysiology even while doing the procedure. as well as embolization work. I did much more in IR than in ortho as a student, and my IR preceptors had much more autonomy than my surgical preceptors. Vitamin D3 vs Vitamin D2 Disclaimer: This site is designed to offer information for general educational purposes only. You caught me. quick fix to a lot of problems - happy pts. This is to prevent spam/trolling. The moderators of the /r/MedicalSchool subreddit do not officially sanction/endorse any channel or take responsibility for any happenings within any channel. [–]helpwithspecialty[S] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children), [–]armpitcurry 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children). For a sub that is specifically geared towards pre-PAs, check out: r/prephysicianassistant. At least where I work in IR our scope is limited by the hospital so that we mostly end up doing line placements. It became FDA approved in 1996 and is … and join one of thousands of communities. If not I would discourage you, because even though it's more cush than other surgeries...it's still the surgery life. From the little I know: Ortho - nice people. Posts not following this rule will be deleted. Procedural mindset is pretty stepwise, radiology needs great problem solvers. [–]t3stdummiMD-PGY3 -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (3 children). I had the opposite experience in ortho - I got to do both surgical and outpatient. Its a super procedure heavy specialty which i really love. They can't unmatch you because you matched transitional right? I would say that orthopedics is fairly heterogeneous as far as if you would be in the operating room, hospital, clinic etc. same, with ortho instead of ENT. To shed some light on how they compete against each other, let’s compare them side by side on respective categories below and hopefully we’ll be able to find out which is a better choice. So it’s clear that both Keens and Merrell have their distinguished advantages and disadvantages. As far as job opportunities go, which one do you think has a more open job market? I can potentially see central lines, dialysis, and thoro/paracentesis in the EM rotation. Just because I don’t do a rotation in IR does not exclude me from being considered as an IR PA in the future... right? Honestly, people may not realize it but in the hospital it is probably the most in demand specialty. Sometimes I miss a few nights a month but I always immediately wear them for the full day the following morning and they go back into place without a problem. Side point - One fear I have is 0 ENT research right now. My hours M-F 7:30-4 with no call and no weekends. There are 30 integrated PGY-1 positions; meanwhile 95 integrated PGY-2 positions (meaning you have to do a prelim first). I understand these are very different specialties. Please help with any information you may have. After pros and cons analysis I think I’m going to go with ortho for the more potential learning opportunities. In the hospital I was at, PAs did all assisting and my preceptor was AWESOME. Initially I was leaning towards IR but I think I’m shifting to ortho now because I think there would be more opportunity to learn practice internal medicine. I like IR more than ortho, but i like ortho more than DR. Dentistry is a broad medical specialty that deals with the teeth, gum, nerves, and jaw, while orthodontics is a specialty within dentistry that focuses on correcting bites, occlusion, and … We have narrowed down the list providing you with the best options in the Industry. also, whyd you put long-term pt interactions for both pros and cons lol. Orthodontists and dentists both help patients improve their oral health, but in different ways. Now that I am working I far more enjoy IR. And definitely way more job opportunities for ortho versus IR. It was a great baptism into surgery. for him, ophtho seemed much more limited in terms of just dealing with the eyes. You may not recruit for your research study without prior moderator approval. I like some long-term patient interactions while I despise other long-term patient outcomes. I just don't want to only do dark room as an attending. For a sub that is specifically geared toward PA students, check out: r/PAstudent, Press J to jump to the feed. WaterPik and Sonicare AirFloss are two of the most popular models of electric flossing tools. If you take AOR's Ortho Core, read this - posted in Retailer/Product Discussion: I was recently in contact with AOR regarding their decision to include Thiamine as their source of B1 instead of Benfotiamine in Ortho Core. I agree with your second paragraph too but I feel they would have to let applicants know upfront about a new requirement before ERAS. “Hi Reddit! I was grinning so hard I thought my mask was going to pop off my face. Both products also allow users to add mouthwash to enhan… IR ENT same, with ortho instead of ENT. Pros - true surgery, variety of procedural techniques (open vs endoscopic vs microscope), long-term patient interactions, mostly healthy patients, mostly good outcomes, treat neonate to elderly, job market Residencies in orthopedic surgery take five years to complete, with applicants far outnumbering available slots. IR is the new kid on the block, not the other way round. i'm just a 3rd year so i don't have 1st hand experience. harder residency due to trauma, but not as bad as gsurg. They are all categorical spots where you apply for ortho and you stay in that one residency program for five years. Ortho is a relatively small community and a lot of people know one another. Lots of physical exams, lots of scoliosis. [07:25] Allopathic vs Osteopathic Students. Really helped my suturing as well. These posts often include an immature or sophomoric subtext. 6 years out of school and he's now in surgery as well. I experienced this firsthand on the interview trail, as several of my interviewers either knew my LOR writers or had heard of them through research publications. Ranking at or near the top of your class, and a COMLEX score in the 85th percentile or above, are baseline qualifications for competitive applicants. I'm an MS2 at a school with lots of "early clinical exposure," so I've tentatively started crossing things off of my list, or at least leaning in one direction. You match to IR residency at the same time as an intern year. Use of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy. Orthodontics refers to a specific field of dentistry that revolved around the treatment and study of improper bites (malocclusions), tooth irregularity and occlusion or disproportionate jaw improved bite. 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